Attack of Hare Krishna Goons

Hare-krishna Goons

Hare Krishna Goons

Hare Krishna goons (these were Russians) selling Bhagavad-Gita and other booklets at Chhata-Chowk in Dharan. Wednesday May 07, 2008.
(Pic contributed by dear Bijay Gajmer)

I like to call them goons because just like any follower of any organized religious sects – be it Hindu, Christian, Buddhism or any other – they are all religious chauvinists trying to SELL heaven.

Here’s a link. (I do not completely agree with some points there.)

Hare Krishna is the most distinguishable cult of the Seventies thanks to the obligatory shaved head and pigtails of male members, chanting and singing and dancing in the big Western cities with saffron robes to the music of cymbals, drums and harmoniums… and collecting money!… receiving donations for the Gita, and door-to door selling of their magazine “Back to the Godhead”.

They use the “pigtails” to be plucked up by Krishna when he rescues them at the time of the deliverance of the world… however, they use “wigs” for the many money-making schemes: charities, asking money for the poor, orphans, Vietnam widows, against drugs… working in big sports, pop concerts, selling car stickers and badges, without permission, of course!…

But after 100 million Gitas distributed, plus 500,000 monthly periodicals of “Back to Godhead”, the “innocence” of those flower-power days is gone… no more contributions now!
A famous contributor was the Beatle George Harrison (dead now).
Founded in 1966, by His Divine Grace Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhuda, born in Calcutta, India, as Abhay Charan De. He came to New York with $8 in his pocket, and 11 years later, in 1977, he died of heart failure, after setting up a multi-million-dollar business empire with 40 temples and 3,000 followers in the USA alone.

Today, they claim a membership of 2 million, but the Center Roger Ikor of Paris puts it at 15,000 devotees worldwide.

The headquarters are now at 3764 Watseka Avenue, Los Angeles, CA 90034, USA.
….

With all of this going on, still about 15,000 devotees try to obtain “Krishna Consciousness”, using 3 methods:
…1- Obeying a Guru, who is like god for them.
…2- Live a very austere life: They sleep 6 hours on a hard floor, no alcohol, no meat, no fish, no conversation unrelated to Krishna. They give up all possessions. If anyone tries to talk with them out of Krishna, he is of Satan. Live in celibacy until marriage, and then they can have sex only after repeating the mantra for 5 hours.
…3- Chant the mantra for at least 5 hours daily, pray the Gita, receive indoctrination, and hard work!.

Seems like these guys do manage to sell heaven (in the meantime, lots of those frigging books and publications). And that thing about “pigtail” is very interesting – “to be plucked into heaven”. Hahaha.

Shut up you freaking hippies.

66 Responses to “Attack of Hare Krishna Goons”

  1. radhapriya Says:

    Perhaps before you make statements like those above you should do a little more research to understand the people you are talking about. Having followed the Hare Krishna lifestyle myself for the past 5 years I can tell you most of what you describe as the “norms” or the standard practices for Hare Krishnas are wrong. Even a quick search on Wikipedia will tell you that, what to speak if you were to actually go to our official websites like krishna.com or iskcon.com. Don’t get me wrong I’m open to honest, constructive criticism but, at least be informed about whats really going on first.

  2. ShutUp Says:

    Don’t get me wrong either, I don’t believe you lots.

  3. kailash108 Says:

    CHANT: Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare: AND BE HAPPY

    and remember Krishna loves you even if you don’t love him…

    The main teachings i’ve been taught is
    1: To be more tolerant than a tree (a tree continues to provide shelter and fruit even as it’s being cut down).
    2: To consider oneself to be lower than a blade of grass (ie: don’t get all puffed up thinking you know it all).
    3: To always be prepared to offer all respect to others.

    Surely these aren’t evil scary attributes to try to cultivate are they?

  4. ShutUp Says:

    What if I don’t want to be loved by your Krishna (or Jesus or Ram or Sai Baba or whatever)? That’s a violation of my basic human rights!

    Besides, I am tolerant, loving caring and respectful – without having to have “tuppi” or pigtail on my head or without having to believe any divine bullshit.

    You want proof of me being loving caring and respectful:
    If you meet me, I will surely offer you a plate of Everest Mo:mo and a can of Tuborg beer.

  5. Ahankara Says:

    Divine bullshit huh? Let’s see how you behave when the messengers of death come and snatch the living shit out of you!!!

    LOL
    LMAO!!

    Whether you believe in God or not the fact remains that He is the Supreme. It’s quite simple actually, even a person like you can understand it, think about the sun, sometimes the clouds appear to cover the sun, but does it mean that the sun does not exists? Think about it hard enough; your clouded consciousness cannot stop thinking about jerking off or screwing some piece of meat and therefore you are defensive and offensive against religions. But this little attitude of yours is only a defense mechanism which allows you to continue your lifestyle without having panic attacks (or some other disorder) due to the realization that your lifestyle actually leads nowhere.

    God bless you my brother.

  6. ShutUp Says:

    “Whether you believe in God or not the fact remains that He is the Supreme..”

    I thought it was SHE… and probably a super hottie.

  7. She.Devil Says:

    bro yo place chhata chowk hoina its Bhanu chowk, beside the ghantaghar…hope u wont get mad!! heheh

  8. vins Says:

    u say ur a person with tolerance, caring attitude and respect. pls can anyone actually see even a trace of those qualities in u. dont bullshit man. ur very behaviour is repulsive to say the least. the kind of hatred that u show towards someone taking the lords name shows the kind of personality u actually are. pls take a walk. im not a hare krishna follower but i can definitely distinguish demons from the angels and i have no doubt to say that u belong to the most devilish society. pls if u cannot do something constructive atleast dont indulge in destructive stuff like the kind ur currently indulging in.

  9. prem Says:

    Who are you to deny God? Even the scientist like Openhiemer (who invented Nuclear Bomb) quoted Vishnu as He comes as Death when he saw the explosion..

    http://www.atomicarchive.com/Movies/Movie8.shtml

    Read what Einsten said “When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and reflect about how God created this universe everything else seems so superfluous.”

    Who are you? Nothing. If you can’t see God now, you will see him at the end as Death.

  10. ShutUp Says:

    This is getting funnier. Keep ‘em coming.

  11. remo Says:

    Shutup! Please shutup your mouth.

  12. adgadanabadgadwhocares Says:

    for the lovers of krishna do you really need to react to this coment ?
    pls leave this poor tolerant caring humble and respectful yet angry upset and deeply hurt self inflicted sorry soul alone please keep your bhakti and all your attention to the lotus feet of you beloved lord.
    my friend can deny god fine so what yet he is worthy of being loved by all isnt it and even he denys god he is not denying his self and all know who is true self of all. so pls for gods sake dont try to make any point .

    let him search his true self. once he will find it he will know that none is evil none is gr8 all are one and part and parcel of same self true self.

  13. jpt... Says:

    angry upset and deeply hurt.. and self inflicted??? ya and please tell me that Krishna came and told you that?? … that would be just the perfect statement to close that “oh i love krishna so much poem” there… just shut up!!

  14. Hari Says:

    Okay, more or less everything you posted on your blog is false. I mean everything. The hair thing is what Jews beleive. That whole article you quoted is fictionalised.

    Please do at least a 5 minute googling before saying such ridiculous things.

    Seriously, just delete the whole post. as far as writing an article goes, it’s as if you’ve dug a hole and called it a house.

  15. ShutUp Says:

    ^Mr. Hari

    The photos, they don’t lie. As far as the link and citation goes.. it’s not my problem.

    I am speaking my mind. I don’t need to prove you or anyone else what I think and believe in or don’t believe in.

    Unlike you guys, who somehow resort to proving, sweet-talking, dream-talking, luring and what not – I do not need to prove to anyone else. Why the “need” to prove true or false?

    And, believe me, you guys do not need to save me. Just save yourself.

  16. davinci Says:

    Though you seem link an atheist, and I’m an agnostic (who’d bet that God exists), I agree with things you’ve said. Oh, btw, I am not sure if these people are the ones so desperately marketing heaven. There’re a lot of religious organizations that have been doing that in a scale unmatched by these guys I think. Also, people like them, who might have sincerely feel that that’s the truth, are tolerable, not those who claim themselves to be Gods or the enlightened ones.

  17. ivo Says:

    and when the meet and beer end where will you take shelter, do you know what is the difference between them and Krishna , you must not told us who to save and who not, what is wrong whith having pig tail, is it bad to be a hare Krishna?

  18. ShutUp Says:

    Q: and when the meet and beer end where will you take shelter
    A: “meet and beer” are for eating/drinking not for sheltering

    Q: do you know what is the difference between them and Krishna
    A: umm.. who and who?

    Q: you must not told us who to save and who not
    A: OK. You make the decisions?

    Q: what is wrong whith having pig tail?
    A: Nothing. Read for the reason.

    Q: is it bad to be a hare Krishna?
    A: You can be whatever you want to be.

  19. ivo Says:

    shut up the comments are not coming any more -devotees of Krishna seem to lost interest on your case. See the thing is that you are not you, this present body and mind. You are soul indestructible and eternal part and parcel of krishna. And krishna is dearmost friend to every one. and he wants us in material world to awaken for our real identiti again becouse inthis place that is purposefully created by him cannot be achieved happynes.Krishna is communist- rest assure- and if you come to know Him again He is not bad man.And anyway everything is His energy – living entities and inert nature .But outside of the huje material galaxies lies the vast spiritual sky in which material world is but a small cloud. Spiritual time runs on a different principle and I can aassure you that perfect Krishna conscious comunism is existing there without beginning. So thats why Trust Shrila Prabhupada He Knows what he speaks in His books. I put my whole life following him and can assure you -it worthed.otherwiceyou will put your energy in establishing comunizm here in this world-but since evrything in this world is bearing the deffewct of inperfection in the form of illusion that is separate from Krishna, while at the same time it is not- you will finally not be satisfied by serving ilusory purpose and suffere .SoThis is the poin of Hare Krishna people-Bhaktiivedanta Swami simply wants to distribute this knolege for happiness of all.Now of course a big deal of misunderstanding is going on everywhere in the world on the basis of illusion and misleading conscious or unconscious. And thats why I submit to you my oun result of investigation – is that this teacher Bhaktivedanta Swami is nice and you can learn the truth from him.And for comunism- you in Indiya and Himalayas dont know enithing abot it I”m from Bulgaria and my father and Grantfather are comunists -giving their full life for it in prison ,helping partizans back in 1944, Father spent whole life working as high inteligence service offiser teaching Politeconomy to cadets in academy. And what is the resolt of it- the resolt is that I”m so happy that I was born during comunism that I want to personally whith my oun hands and with a notverysharp knife cut the throats of Marx Lennin, Stalinend all other future communist leaders who will lie to the citizens that communizm will make them happy . Becouse iit”s a very big and nice lie. Fortunately I’ not have to do it myself becouse they killed each other .finaly Comrade Berriya killed the Grat Hero Stallin.Or if you want I can tell you how comerciall communists killed thous who really belived in the nice idea becouse the latter have been an obstacle to them in steling the money from people. Or if you want you can hear from me how now Bulgaria is no more comunist but the children of leading comunist become nice capitalist with the money their father steal from the people , and they still run comunist party masked as socialist. What you think that your komuniist partyi will bw different – if you are big beliver you will be killed by the more mercantile membrs of the partii, if you are mercantile you will kill the idealists- and thats all – it’s written history.And thows russian man in the picture they know this – thei lived this – and what are you you stay there in Himalayas breathing fresh air and becouse life seems little misfortunate you think that BIGYOU will save the world.
    Of cours capitalism is no better nor hedonism.Everything fails without krishna.
    this i know.

  20. ShutUp Says:

    ^zzzzzzzzzzzz
    By the time anyone finishes up reading what you posted, I can go downstairs, get on my bike, go to Basantapur and eat 2 plates of Momo at the newly open Kastamandup Momo Shop – then go to a near by Soda-shop and drink two big glasses of Lemon Soda (with extra Lemon) and then belch out huge burps of Soda and come back home.

  21. ivo Says:

    now selling is simply becouse people are used to byu nise things so to attract their attention to something waluable it is nice they want to spend money anyway – so why not for nice books. But otherwice you take thiss exellent knowlege free of any charge inthe net:http://www.prabhupadavani.org/
    http://www.backtohome.com
    http://www.srila-prabhupada.com
    and many other

  22. ivo Says:

    lemon soda is nice

  23. ShutUp Says:

    Oh wow, now you are down to blatantly shamless advertisment of your religion!

    Finally, the real you.

  24. ivo Says:

    than go to krishna adn tell Him- Krishna I know perfectly clear that you dont exist and stil the stupid religions of the world proceed to invade the butyifull Nepal without knowing that it is mine home we are very nice Nepali young people with high sens of rigthchiousness and we know how to fight the evill things and help the poor people- and he will help you – he allready helped you to forget Him in Such way that you get angry immideately when you hear of Him.

  25. Ivo Says:

    Excuse me ..I gone too fare.. i red artikle also about femely guru. and i se that your couse is right- against inherytary brahmanism… the qualification is quality no birth.this twisted caste system is not good.. . and many Achariass fought against it… the people are stupid they hide behind religion to do nonsence.. but dont blame Krishna… or real devotees.. this is like blaming the cow that somebodyelse had put poison in milk. good luck

  26. ShutUp Says:

    Define Krishna. Define “real devotees”.

    How can you say that someone is not a real devotee just because they don’t want to “appease” Krishna? If a Muslim guy sincerely and truly believes in Allah and is a real devotee of Allah – how will you convince him of following your Krishna?

    And more importantly, what’s the difference between you and other real devotee of their own religion?

  27. ivo Says:

    no difference, just stupid people take religion to make further destinktion between themselves and others . otherwice jessus said go everywhere and tell all this information about god and jessus is mentioned in Bhavishya uttara purana as Isa and the story of two himalian yogis Adhama and Havyavati is also told there. I.m now in Tel Aviv and here people still call Eva Hava, but in the west it has become Eva. The same with Allah. There is no need to change from Allah to krishna Provided the real purpouse of religion is served. And this is To remember God always And finaly He will give intelligence from the Heart. He is in The Heart of The Heart Of each and every one of us and can assure you that he dont love me more than you. He is Hearing your every thouth and when it so happens that you deside to turn your thouths toward him he will answer you in such a way that you will know. So there is no different religions – it’s one- To Love God and return Home. Just like in Different univercities 2+2 cannot be other than 4 Krishna establishes , sends different teachers- but stupid people , very much like to make enmiti vith others and use this- not Your god – MY GOG _ NONsense – like this – infortunate history. So I agree with you about Jagannath Pury. All the world actually is on fire due to this bewilderment.
    Krishna -meanse Allatraktive- 6 opulences- Fame Buty Rich Power Renounced intelligens- In supreme inexostible degre – this is standrd- if you meet HIM- He is the ONE_ Nobodi can Compare with Him. HIndu,s abandoned krishna thinking He is one of the Gods But He is Deva Deva GOd of Gods- Milion Unlimited Names- ALlah ……..in MY language i say Slance inglish Sun- object is the same.

  28. ShutUp Says:

    I admire your persistence but I truly sympathize your lack of self judgment and self belief.

    Finally, I want to rephrase this nice little saying a little bit and say:

    “Is Krishna willing to prevent evil, but not able?
    Then he is not omnipotent.

    Is Krishna able, but not willing?
    Then he is malevolent.

    Is Krishna both able and willing?
    Then whence cometh evil?

    Is Krishna neither able nor willing?
    Then why call him God?”

    (Originally by Epicurus)

    If “Krishna” wants every one “To love and return home”, why can’t he just make it happen?
    What is the “Deva Deva God of Gods” waiting for?
    Oh God with Million Unlimited Names – please do it already, lest our Momo be over-boiled!

  29. ivo Says:

    You will find the same and more Sckotland filosofer david hum 17** year. But as you will often will find Shrila Prabhupada say if you listen to His lectures : Krishna is not doing evil you are doing! we are not robots to him but dear friends. he is not stupid to want to have the company of robots. So becouse we are small He fulfills all our desires. and if we are stupid enough to want to live in material world- he let us- not wanting but we insyst – so to learn the lesson- he lets us. And we want to explore here becouse at one point we think ” Can be a plase where I will be Krishna? Cose in Vaikuntha everithing is Conscious of Him. And …. Material – thiss world is such plase. Come here and try along others with the same ambition to compete to become FIRST above anyone ,.So how is it possible…. No Possible. Everything is Krishnas Every energy , material You yourself. But if you insyst on acting on fullish ideya pleace….So this World is cold Fenomenal – every weard thing is Possible Bhakti Siddhanta Sarasvati says : This World is not For jentlemen. Still Krishna is Maintaining it in order for curious to learn the lesson . But just as you now receive information- He is giving again and again information about the real world annd the means Guruparampar- toreturn there. There everything is allright-here never.So as Shrila Prabhupada says :…” One Can easilly see that thins here are not very sane”You wanted to come – now you have information how to go out – act upon it. Make your mind – and- back home- leave the crazy ones to playtill they get the meaning – or if you want to help them be a Hare Krishna Goon – Suply information to them and save themthis is not easy – becouse sometimes they HATE to hear the trhruth.Othervice for MahaVishnu the whole existence of material universes is one breath time in a sacond he can Cut doun the energy Suply for nutshouse and it will Vaanish But newer and newer Inquisitive persons want to come and exploit here and the get bewildered and forgetfull.Materiall world is complicate machine – Low of Carma – Since you decline living inGoloka – Krishnas Planet- where everything is runned by Love- then come here and try to live on your oun endevor. thats all-Still less than 10 % of innumerable living entitties want to live here. Material worlg is not popular plase among experianced sittizens of spiritual world- they observ it as something as garbage place .For Krishna there is No reason to try to make Material world Nice place Becouse Nice place exists and is never Subject to destruction. We are from there . And it is our birthrigt to return there. But it cannot happen without our desiring to do so. You want to return. Krishna waiths for you.

  30. Milly Says:

    See, this is what I dislike about this organisation. I was in central London three months ago, and a few Hare Krishna people were outside preaching. And I could see people walking past who didn’t like it. I know their intentions were good (for them), but if preaching to non-believers causes tension then it is better not to do it at all. Only preach to those who asked to be preached at. No point making everyone listen to all these drums and chanting down Oxford Street.

  31. S Says:

    There are very rare instances when you get to enjoy comments more than the write-ups. and damn this sure does fall into that category. and man…I thought this thing was just a fad back in the 60s or 70s. and now they have a headquarter!!!…how interesting! …gosh…these people seriously need to get a life!

    haha..the supreme power , Goddess- a supper hottie… absolutely relished your imagination there!

  32. IVO Says:

    SHRILA PRABHUPADA….So everything is there, but we don’t accept. Under designation, we are fighting, that’s all. Under designation, under ignorance, we are fighting. We are forgetting Krsna. Therefore our miserable condition, bhaya, fearfulness. Bhayam dvitiyabhinivesatah isad apetasya viparyayo ’smrtih. Viparyayo ’smrtih means just opposite understanding. Everything belongs to God. Isavasyam idam sarvam [Iso mantra 1]. That’s a fact. But I am thinking, “It is my land.” Aham mameti [SB 5.5.8]. Janasya moho ‘yam aham mameti. Nothing belongs to us. Everything belongs to Krsna. If we accept Krsna, the center, and we work under His direction, as it is said in the Bhagavad-gita, our life is successful, our whole program is peaceful. All tranquility, everything is there.

    Thank you very much. Hare Krsna. (end)

    >>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 3.26.16 — Bombay, December 25, 1974

  33. KUMAR Says:

    I absolutely agree with S … this is where you enjoy the comments more than the write-ups …

  34. ivo Says:

    Answers According to the Vedic Version:

    ——————————————————————————–

    Complaint: There Is No God

    Kindly stop all this drama of God. He is nowhere. I am now realizing that there is no God. This all is a kind of business made up by fake gurus. Kindly stop making a fool of the people. Let the people live nice lives. Don’t scare them by telling them that if you do good karma the reward will be accordingly be given. Religion and fake stories of God make people superstitious and cowardly.

    Let them be free from all these made up stories about Krishna because there is no God and no such thing as karma. You should only live and let others live peaceful lives. If you will not reply to my mail, that means that you are a hypocrite and my enlightenment about God is right.

    Sangita Marwah

    ——————————————————————————–

    Answer: It’s Time for You to Open Your Eyes

    You are like the owl who keeps his eyes closed and declares that there is no sun. It’s time for you to open your eyes.

    God means the source of all existence. Your argument that there is no God is baseless and illogical because nowhere do we have an experience of something come out of nothing. Do you have any experience of something coming out of nothing? No, you do not. If you examine any object, you will see that it comes from something and that the something from which it comes also comes from something. So if you trace back, back, back to that something which does not come from something, you have arrived at the original something, the source of all existence or God.

    Your ranting and raving that there is no God is mere foolishness. God has given you the free will to accept Him or deny Him. So if you choose to deny Him, it by His grace that you are allowed to do.

    You are also denying the existence of the law of karma, but yet you are still being forced by the stringent laws of nature to accept the pious and impious reactions for all of your activities. You may stick your head in the sand like an ostrich trying to deny the existence of God and karma, but when the predator of death comes to kill you, you will be powerless to protect yourself. Those who have taken shelter of the Lord are delivered from the clutches of death into that abode where life is eternal, full of knowledge, and full of bliss.

    If you prefer temporality, illusion, and misery over eternity, knowledge, and bliss, that is your prerogative. But those who have awakened their dormant God consciousness prefer living in a higher class neighborhood in the association of the Supreme Person and great liberated souls, His eternal associates.

    Sankarshan Das Adhikari

  35. ShutUp Says:

    “So if you trace back, back, back to that something which does not come from something, you have arrived at the original something, the source of all existence or God”

    So how did God origin in the first place?
    Ans: From another God.

    And how did this “another God” existed?
    Ans: From another another God.

    And what is the origin of this another another God?
    Ans: Fuck off.. listen to me. You must believe in God.

    You see, I don’t get tired of questioning.

    “so when the predator of death comes to kill you, you will be powerless to protect yourself”

    Waahoo.. you do like to scare people, don’t you? Death, Eternal Damnation, Hellfire. It’s a very good weapon though. It has worked all these years.

    But, no one is denying death. Death is just as true as birth and life does ceases one day. I’m not afraid of that. Only fools feel powerless and cry and wimper and piss on their boots when guys like you threaten them with “death” or “hell” or “illusion” or “misery”.

    “His eternal associates”

    But, can I choose to live in a higher class neighborhood in the association of the Supreme Woman.. and her eternal associates? That would be fun.. umm blissful or let’s say.. eternally blissful.

    And, this time, please don’t make me wait for over half a month if she is available or not.

  36. S Says:

    Thi sis funny. Just a few days ago I had a near death experience. and exactly at that point of time. I was thinking about anything BUt the predator of death…haha…seriously..when you are caught completely unaware….you don’t even get
    to think! and this has got to be!! the insanest line ever ‘God consciousness prefer living in a higher class neighborgood..’ haha…so that means God doesn’t reside in the poor class neighborhood …and Shut up I liked what you said – trust me just like you if that supreme person was a hot guy himself..I would love to be in his company as well with a prospect of eternal blisfulness..that would be awesome!
    and yeah..I wouldn’t mind waiting at all for whoever that guy is to let me know about his availability!

  37. ivo Says:

    HE has whatever you can imagine, becouse he is the very source of your imagination and everything else. He is listening to you all the time. We are giving information. our business is not to scare or not to scare. If inf. is scarywhat to do? To stop giving it?If dead is scary-lets talk about it when it comes- othervice-we are talking imagination.religion is not kind of faith- it can change- religion means esential quality.if you take heat from fire- this is not fire anymore. Like this. living entities esential quality is service – if they refuse to serve god- they serve their own desires or other living entities- but information we give is that their real freedom and happyness is wholeheartyedly lovingly serv Krishna. becouse krishna is absolutely free when you are tottaly dependent on Him you are also tottaly free.is this make sense?Othervise you can explore everywhere in Krishnas creation – as you are doing now. Are you tottaly free and happy- answer you know.Krishna Has a particular Femail form named Mohinimurti. You can learn about her in 8 canto of Shrimad Bhagavatam, byu it From Hare krishna Devotees.I’m now in Mayapur near Calcuta . Excuse me if i ofended you somehow.

  38. ShutUp Says:

    Somehow your rhetoric is not working really well to “scare” me off!

    Since you have mentioned Krishna has a “femail” side too – I am curious to know your and your religion’s stance on “gay, lesbian, shemale and eunuch”.

  39. S Says:

    I swear this is getting funnier by the day. If I were some late night talk show producer..
    I would have no qualms about hiring you guys to fill in the post of the writers. After all even the general people deserve to hear this and laugh out loud..as in very very loud!

  40. queer Says:

    ShutUp, you can try dying or rather think of it. Then you will know the need of God. Mortals try to be God. Sadly, not even a tiny portion they can be like God. They dominate (countries, people, nature, thoughts/ideas) rather then surrender. A typical characteristic of a fool.

    A fool can’t be convinced, he needs faith.
    Faith comes from believing in miracles. Go google miracles. Then watch Matrix. Dullheads sometimes can’t understand Matrix.

    But, sad is the fact of the faithless. I know its tough to get a little of that faith. I pity myself too… We are blind.

  41. ShutUp Says:

    Why should your god be my god?

    I have complete faith that your god is not my god, I believe in miracle, but your miracle is not my miracle.

    Why should I think and believe just the way you do?

  42. Will Says:

    do u acknowledge that god does exist?

  43. SR Says:

    Wow, this is really hilarious. I didn’t read all, hare krishna ke kati dherai justify gareko, but I really enjoyed the sequence. Nice way of recharging yourself, getting a laugh, when you are stuck with your assignment, frustrated, have to deliver within the coming 10 hours, haven’t reached half of the assignment and is lacking ideas.

    Now the question to the Hare Krishnas, how will this god save my ass? (If they claim that my filling the assignment with crap and shit and meeting the deadline ANYWAY and passing it also ANYWAY with just passed mark is a miracle, then …………………….)

  44. bubfowkes Says:

    Krishna will save you. But, leave the preaching alone for a bit yeah? It fries peoples brains out and they end up resenting god more than loving him. I mean by all means do Hari Nam and all that and distribute prasadam, but still, if people don’t want to hear about Krishna, and they state it explicitly, do not force them. I’m a Buddhist that studied the hare krishna religion. you either want to follow the path or you don’t. This guy clearly don’t, so why bother him? Krishna for you people is strong, so Krishna will eventually prove him wrong. Just be thankful he came across it this life. Even the enemies of Krishna achieve some liberation, so just be happy.

  45. ShutUp Says:

    awwwwww.. that broke my heart

  46. TalkaLot Says:

    Someone who calls him/herself “Shutup” goes a long way to describe a personal attitude. I think that if one wants to condensate in the shortest statement possible all major dogmas of dictatorship, oppression philosophies, nazi thinking or even mafia behavior one can easily do that by the two words “shut up”. As it goes, those who order so to others never think this statement it is best applied to themselves. It is a question of style. And brains. But what can you ask from someone that thinks others should just shut up? Dictators and pushy guys usually have one thing in common: their self esteem sucks. So they go about bulling the weak and the meek. If you think you know all about life and death, God and happiness and you are very smart and clever then become a preacher, open your own church and go on TV. You’ll tell everyone what God wants and how things are in truth. You’ll get people to listen to you and they will adore you. That way, you’ll eventually become happy and satisfied. But how will you finance all that? Oh, I forgot, you are smart and clever and you’ll find a way to raise money in such a clean and pure way no one else has ever thought possible. Everyone will be so impressed and probably even God Himself will come to compliment you. Mind that when He shows up I reckon you’ll need to try extra hard to hide that old envy you have for Him: He’s a powerful guy, you know and you better not mess around with Him. Just a piece of free advice, bro.
    By the way, why don’t you switch nick to something that may suit you better, like maybe TalkLess? Or even ThinkMore? ArseHoole I think would be just perfect, but then again someone may consider it Lex Iulia Maiestatis, high treason, so after all ShutUp it is just right for you.

  47. In Short Says:

    aba last ma kei napaera nick name ma pani comment garna thalecha!! ….. Hariii Sharanam!! …. lol.. now i’ve become an expert regarding where to use that phrase!! …

    … i loved the article.. i double loved the comments.. ..however.. dont think u shud use such a bad word as “arsehole” …. u will be in Krishna’s bad book… soo.. what was it? .. oh yes… “and when the meet and beer end.. where will you take sheltar?”.. Krishna will shake his lil finger at u and tut at u for being a bad boy/gal…

  48. Peter Says:

    Interesting article, but i do not consider it total true and it is even arogant in some way.

    The most bothering sentance for me inside aticele is:

    /*
    Founded in 1966, by His Divine Grace Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhuda, born in Calcutta, India, as Abhay Charan De. He came to New York with $8 in his pocket, and 11 years later, in 1977, he died of heart failure, after setting up a multi-million-dollar business empire with 40 temples and 3,000 followers in the USA alone */
    //////////////////////////////////////////////////////
    Even if i look from totaly material/atheistic look i do not agree with that.

    It is writen in such bad ugly unrespectfull materialistic way(it is making me sick) as he only cares obout money and followers.

    I dont belive that. Why woud a man in his old age living all live in his own enviroment want to come to USA just to earn paper. He was a wery smart man, wery educated and a gentelman, who folowed his belive adn, maybe he was right and we are all wrong who knows. Either way he deserves respect. When he vas younger he was a pharmacist… He was maried and had children(i think), he had his life almoust over, and he was not money posesive. I strongy disagree that his motivation was money and folowers.

    The core of my problem and many other obout KRISHNA and other religions is are they product from our heads or are they realy true absolute.

    It is true that money and power are importend and some are adicted with it, but it is not core problem.

    Many religions are speaking nonecence like cristinity and others in same type. Like that God created us 6000 year ago and so on…. When i hear statment like that i know that interpretation/religion is false and if i found one false/stupid/ilogical thing than religion is false.

    But HARE KRISHNA is perfect i didnt find any mistake all is logical and that is sometimes pain for me becouse i trie to find error in it but it acualy doesnt have it. BAHAGAVATGITA is perfect, and BHAGAVATAM… it is very hard to understand them corectly. They are not crap talk but actualy wery wery acurete books and they make a lot of sence.

    It is a very just fair and nice system VEDIC system.
    If most of the people will folow the lows in BHG and BHT this world will pe paradise even if they do not belive in god.

    But the core problem is: is it true? Or it is yust a creation of a very smart man.

    Do we rely live forever or this is yust ilusion and now is the only chance to do somthing for our advancmet in life.
    Becouse if i let myself to religion and forget that i am living in a heavy hard enviromet and that i will die tomorow if i do not do somthing today to prevent death.

    If ve folow religion we deny atempt to improve medicine and science in that way specialy bioenginerig and compuer science. If ve folow hrishna we do not nead them krishna will take care for us and that is very dangerous.

    Maybe some that we will wind out that there is no god by science and create out imortallty by cracking out DNA or we will wind out that god realy exist and we can yoin him(that will be bether option).

    My greatest fears and i thing i am not alone, that religions are only in literature and out heads but the world out there is realy cruel and we must survive and nobody is going to save us from above.

    Sory from my english, and have a good live and i hope i am wrong and that krishna realy exist.

    HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE…

  49. don Says:

    …while [the undefinable] God is real krishna is a fiction and iskcon is a joke – i used to be a hare krishna…i know very well.

  50. amar Says:

    if truth is something that works ….then why not try whether what the hare krishnas say is true or not before judging it works or it does not work…..if its the hare krishnas job to preach its your job whether you like to take it or not…but i guess judging them why they preach should not be your concern if you do not like it……well and if you wish to tell people that hare krishnas are fools then you should put yourself in the shoes of the people who became hare krishnas and see if you will become one or not….what may have worked for many people may work for the other guy as well….provided you need a salvation in your life..when you find that everything in your life hammers you in your knees ….well at any rate the information you provided to justify the harekrishnas are bad are not concrete….well you see when you start defending to a larger group you need to be more clear about the information you have taken pains to collect or whether you have done it at all…and by the only fools talk that something works or doesnt work when they themselves do not open up their hearts and hands to see and feel whether something really works or not…..and anybody who has been without a neutral attitude with a harekrishna person can feel that …ah heres a good guy……whether its because of his claims of gods existence or not…..well try out and then you may comment again …lets then see what you have got to comment ……some truths work for everyone because there cannot be a higher truth than that……….apart from eating your momo and drinking soda lemon…..is not life worth living more towards the love of an ant as equal as a love for your fellowbeing …..try to read the truths in the bhagvad gita …and then you shall believe in them regardless of whether you need to believe in a god or not…..You shall understand that there are more truths to life hidden in those holy scriptures than you can ever wait to experience or know just by living…well you may go on living as you wish but try to realise that you should not regret later on in your life that you could have lived far better way…..

  51. amar Says:

    and the beauty of krishna conciousness is that you may take only as much as you are like……we never force anybody ….and if the mercy of the kirtans on the street and the chanting of holy names offends somebody…..maybe its only because its new to the masses and we never ask you not to critise us…..we are open to critism ………..ask us anything you want………..but the very concept of kirtans is having chanting in congregations in every village in this world and on every street……….well and it is not without sweat and toil that we do it……..its what we believe in …..and why do you ask us not to chant on the streets…..

  52. Roman Says:

    As an answer to the Epicurus riddle:

    Krishna is both willing and able. Originally, you were with Him in eternal bliss. But you wanted to imitate Him, be a ruler like Him, so he let you down to Earth. And now you have to chant and lead a pure life if you want to go back.

    Well, that’s what Prabhupada taught anyway =)

  53. Iksvaku das Says:

    November 17: lets return to a very simple point – you are not shut up- you are some other person, nepali sitizen with addres name ,relatives. But even this identity is not your true identity.But you are fully absorbed in “seeing” it as your “true” identity. Thats where all the confusion comes from.
    religion is not my it’s Krishnas.Religion means reestablishing connection.To reestablish our onesidedly lost connection with Krishna we must consciously desire to be reestated in our original eternal identity as a servant of krishna.we have a heart and that heart also has a heart- this is Krishna.Servise to Krishna comprices more than 90% of the original energy of the eternal living entity. When the living entity is more and more forgetfull of krishna this energy of devotional service more and more diminishes and one becomes more and more mizerable and tottaly delusioned . in such a state living entity cannot even distinguish between Krishna himself and falsely religious people who think that God is ordersupplier of their nessesities of life. Now the fact is that Krishna suplies everything for everyone, becouse without Him everyone is just a helpless kittie.But at one point living entity becomes so delusioned that he hates God Himself.So we must make discussion more precise. You are against God or you are against some people who pose as religious- but do it for profit without true sentiment and dedication and honesty.
    we are about Krishna and say that He is not cheater but true friend of everyone. and also we are against cheaters who use the name of God to promote their egoistic ideas. We admire you sir that you at least say honestly that by your opinion Krishna does not exist. this initial honesty, although in your case mixed with atheistic wiev, is the initial point of religionbecouse without such simple honesty further progres in understanding the real truth about the world is impossible. And we on our part can say that we wiev such honest but ateistic people as more valuable members of society than thouse who pose as religious but in the name of “religion” create havoc in society and in this way induce in common people dissatisfaction with the religion and make them prone to atheistic wievs.
    However finaly everyone by good fortune must try very carefully to understand the truth about Krishna from His real representative and prepare himself to return in our original home Back to Godhead where we will be participating in supreme blissfull existence and where love and not fear is central driving force. Love for Krishna , and His love for each and everyone of us.
    In this connection ” about lesbians etc.: Material world is called fenomenal.here the driving force is fear.fear that I will not get as much happyness as I desire but as krishna says in bhagavad gita .. All the planets in the material World From Brahmaloka where the lifespan of the inhabitants is 311 trilion eartly years down to the lowest hellish planet – all are pleces of misery , wherein birth and dead take place. So due to intense misery that the living entities experience in material world they aquire wery twisted way of thinking resulting in wery degraded desires and fenomenal forms.There is no such thing as man dating man etc. but on the principle of golden mountine- you have seen gold and you have seen mountain- in a dream you combine them and you dream of golden mountain. In a similar waythouse who are very wretched and envious are trown again and again in demoniac forms of life in which they exibit all unnatural tendencies and desires acumulated during countless lifetimes of suffering in material world . So as you see we dont even try to frighten you with hell. Krishna tells you that you are allready in hell- material world. and one of the simptoms is that you dont even recognize this . Pig does not recognize that humans pity him- he is happy eating stool.
    In the spiritual world original Adi-rasa exists between Krishna and Radha- and they exchange kisses hugs and dance – sometimes all night – but the process of twisted mundane sex is conspicious there by its absence. So all forms of mundane sex are based on this artificial process of gratifying the genitalls.people struggle hard withe dillemma sex or love.Sex can be used in the process of reviving our original state of consciousness -Krishna consciousness- which is the underlying reality behind the world as we see it now. and the way to do this is to have normal family and rase your children giving them spiritual culture and enlightenment. Not that this is compulsory- but if you cannot see life without sex – this is one safe way to have it.

    So in conclusion material world means to see things as not connected to Krishna. Since everything has its origin in krishna seeing it in a way that makes it look as not connected with krishna is simply madness. and lesbians etc are sheer examples of extreem forms of madness. but so called “normal people are also mad if they think that things are not connected with Krishna.No0 matter how degraded one can be he can save himself if he turns his attention to Krishna, Becouse krishna is Supremely pure and purifies everything that comes in contact with him. And no matter how “normal one can be – if he does not recognize Krishna- he is only sure to become more and more mad. but finaly when one again turns to Krishna – he can be rescued immediately by all madnes- even with this first step in self realisation- that you are not this body. The body is symply a mashine of material energy which you use to explore the phenomenal world. becouse by our spiritual nature we are pleasureseekers by nature, when we falsely identyfye with the body , we try to derive unlimited pleasure out of it. this is so becouse in the association of Krishna happiness is everincreasing- and in the depths of our consciousness we sence that happyness is our birthright. BUT!!!!!- material world is a world of limited resource. Static.and all unhappyness and confusion comes from this simple thing – entities seeking dinamic everincreasing happynes – try to find it in a static world with everdecreasing resourse. Which brings great fear uponeveryone. and in this atmosphere of fear and unsatisfaction- every phenomena becomes possible- gay[in one movie one man was descrybing something and said....: when I was young gay ment happy], so this is another feature of mat. world – this is the world of names only-and furthermore people cannot stand to see themselves as not normal- this means i’m mad – but instead trying to rectify it – I try to twist the law in such a way that my madness becomes- not madness. so how are peace and happyness possible in such environment .

    The only solution is to return in our long lost original state of consciousness- Krishna consciousness.

  54. ShutUp Says:

    What makes you think people, other than you, are disillusioned? I’m pretty sure, you are. So wake up !!

  55. Iksvaku das Says:

    Shut up be sencere- you like very much these foreigners distributing books about Krishna downtown Nepal.

  56. Iksvaku das Says:

    I’m trying to wake up,, it seems that I start to see some light, but am not fully awake yet. and beware becouse when I will be fully wake up Ill come in nepal arest you and make you sell Hare krishna Books all day and all Night.

  57. Iksvaku das Says:

    What makes us think people who do not follow Krishna are illusioned is the statements of Krishna Himself in such scriptures as Bhagavad Gita As It IS , Srimad Bhagavatam,

    And many spiritual teachers as Srila Vyasadeva , Narada , Asita Devala, Manu, Bhishma Shukadeva, Prahlad Maharaja Yamaraja, Ambarisha Maharaja, and in modern day Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, Six Goswamis of Wrindavana – namely Sri Rupa Goswami , his elder brother Sri Sanatana Goswami, Srila GopalaBhatta Goswami, Sri Raghunatha Bhatta Goswami , Sri raghunatha das Goswami and Sri Jiva Goswami , an also their Followers in Sri Guru Parampara- Vishvanath Chakravarti, Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Goswami, Gourakishora dasa Babaji- the spiritual master of Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami – who brought Krishna Consciousness to American shore in 1965 and founded Hare Krishna in 1966 there.His disciple is our spiritual master His Grace Sriman Sankarshan Das Adhikari at backtohome.com.

    Now where the confusion comes about – it comes from the freedom- to choose authoritu you trust. I choose to trust such persons- becouse for many years I studied their character and their books- and I’m satisfied to follow such a liders.

    Befor that when I was following my parrents as a child- as every child . Father was and is atheist. so for me atheism and trust in empirical sciensce were natural back ground to the extent that I dont remember actualu to have this dilemma to be teist or atheist – in our home atheism was so natural that other possibillity hardly existed.

    so in this way i can understand atheistic people their feelings, and beliefes in life. In the same time i can tell them[ if they ask me] whAT a great difference it makes when you finaly understand and accept that the universe is not just a vast desert sprung out of nowhere but has order behind it . And this order is so Sublime and satisfiying that the momo and beer look just as mear hellish suffering compared to it. Now about lemon Juise if You offer to krishna – than you can also enjoy it – it will be already Krishna Prasadam – mersy – completely transcendental.

    Confusion in atheistik people arises when they hear that Krishna is great – that it will finish their own greatness- But actually only when you connect with Krishna you can become really great and return in the transcendental World- otherwice you reman here in the miserable material World – which -although Krishna creation- is symply a place of suffering where repeated birth and dead takes place.

    now in my life initially I met the book Lord of the rings The Hobbit which gave me some idea of cosmik creation being something more than simple chemistry- as atheists try to wiev the world. than in one particularly heavy moment of life i realised that no matter what you do you cant escape- one particular ocupation – evryone is forever servent- and the confusion here in material world comes out of the many illusioned persons that think 2 completely wrong things: 1.that they can become masters- which is wrong becouse in evry moment you are controlled by the material nature being her creation- and he is owned by Krishna , and 2.: even if you concuer the world- you will still remain in it as a servant of your own plans and dreams.

    So realising that no matter what you do you reain servant- in family youserv the family members, in the country – other people- in your work – the company- so this position of servent is inescapable.
    In itself it is so easy to see so hard to notice that i waqnder how was i atall been able to realize this.

    Onse having understand this I adopted an Idea that at least I want to be the servant of the one person that is supreme over evrything – and then I find the books about Krishna .
    that is all – and that’s how I know that i’m right and you are wrong. This is not personal ambition to overshown you by proving by false propaganda that you are false – when you are right- no just becouse it so happened that I found somehow the right formula- I see how you strugle still with wrong formulas – you think are right- but I know by my personal experience thet this formulas are all useless.

    The difficulty comunicating this to you is coming from the factthat you have for some reason or other complete trust in your wrong formulas.
    You in fact see things in completely the oposite way. You think that krishna is not existing and I just find some relifef of hard life in believing in some supreme being.

    I can decide to accept your point of wiev- but there is nothing much to accept- becouse I will end up accepting wievpoint of a person who is not able to know even the basic facts of his own existence, and yet somehow dares to give opinion on topics that are so much out of the reach of his perception but in the same time is so proudly and arrogantly – completely confidently gives advicess-on universe and on the existence of Krishna. even if we adopt empiric methods [which in itsel are onli subordinate knowledge aquireing method] still we must admitt 50:50 % possibillity. Some modern cheaters going under the name of famous scientist in todays world want to impose such paradigm and bery the whole contemporary science under it. fortunately this das not mean that all modern scientists are stupid. Sciensce means 50:50% chance is for everything out of the reach of solid proofs – not to imagine some complex of theories and without oroof to pass it under the name of so called “science”.

    and 2.

  58. Iksvaku das Says:

    tad idaḿ bhagavān rājann
    eka ātmātmanāḿ sva-dṛk
    antaro ‘nantaro bhāti
    paśya taḿ māyayorudhā
    SYNONYMS

    tat — therefore; idam — this manifestation; bhagavān — the Personality of Godhead; rājan — O King; ekaḥ — one without a second; ātmā — the Supersoul; ātmanām — by His energies; sva-dṛk — qualitatively like Him; antaraḥ — without; anantaraḥ — within and by Himself; bhāti — so manifests; paśya — look; tam — unto Him only; māyayā — by manifestations of different energies; urudhā — appears to be many.
    TRANSLATION

    Therefore, O King, you should look to the Supreme Lord only, who is one without a second and who manifests Himself by different energies and is both within and without.
    PURPORT

    The Supreme Lord Personality of Godhead is one without a second, but He manifests Himself by different energies because He is by nature blissful. The living beings are also manifestations of His marginal energy, qualitatively one with the Lord, and there are innumerable living beings both within and without the external and internal energies of the Lord. Since the spiritual world is a manifestation of the Lord’s internal energy, the living beings within that internal potency are qualitatively one with the Lord without contamination from the external potency. Although qualitatively one with the Lord, the living being, due to contamination of the material world, is pervertedly manifested, and therefore he experiences so-called happiness and distress in the material world. Such experiences are all ephemeral and do not affect the spirit soul. The perception of such ephemeral happiness and distress is due only to the forgetfulness of his qualities, which are equal to the Lord’s. There is, however, a regular current from the Lord Himself, from within and without, by which to rectify the fallen condition of the living being. From within He corrects the desiring living beings as localized Paramātmā, and from without He corrects by His manifestations, the spiritual master and the revealed scriptures. One should look unto the Lord; one should not be disturbed by the so-called manifestations of happiness or distress, but he should try to cooperate with the Lord in His outward activities for correcting the fallen souls. By His order only, one should become a spiritual master and cooperate with the Lord. One should not become a spiritual master for one’s personal benefit, for some material gain or as an avenue of business or occupation for earning livelihood. Bona fide spiritual masters who look unto the Supreme Lord to cooperate with Him are actually qualitatively one with the Lord, and the forgetful ones are perverted reflections only. Yudhiṣṭhira Mahārāja is advised by Nārada, therefore, not to be disturbed by the affairs of so-called happiness and distress, but to look only unto the Lord to execute the mission for which the Lord has descended. That was his prime duty.
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    Canto 1: Creation Chapter 13: Dhṛtarāṣṭra Quits Home
    Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 1.13.49

    so ‘yam adya mahārāja
    bhagavān bhūta-bhāvanaḥ
    kāla-rūpo ‘vatīrṇo ’syām
    abhāvāya sura-dviṣām
    SYNONYMS

    saḥ — that Supreme Lord; ayam — the Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa; adya — at present; mahārāja — O King; bhagavān — the Personality of Godhead; bhūta-bhāvanaḥ — the creator or the father of everything created; kāla-rūpaḥ — in the disguise of all-devouring time; avatīrṇaḥ — descended; asyām — upon the world; abhāvāya — for eliminating; sura-dviṣām — those who are against the will of the Lord.
    TRANSLATION

    That Supreme Personality of Godhead, Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa, in the guise of all-devouring time [kāla-rūpa] has now descended on earth to eliminate the envious from the world.
    PURPORT

    There are two classes of human beings, namely the envious and the obedient. Since the Supreme Lord is one and the father of all living beings, the envious living beings are also His sons, but they are known as the asuras. But the living beings who are obedient to the supreme father are called devatās, or demigods, because they are not contaminated by the material conception of life. Not only are the asuras envious of the Lord in even denying the existence of the Lord, but they are also envious of all other living beings. The predominance of asuras in the world is occasionally rectified by the Lord when He eliminates them from the world and establishes a rule of devatās like the Pāṇḍavas. His designation as kāla in disguise is significant. He is not at all dangerous, but He is the transcendental form of eternity, knowledge and bliss. For the devotees His factual form is disclosed, and for the nondevotees He appears like kāla-rūpa, which is causal form. This causal form of the Lord is not at all pleasing to the asuras, and therefore they think of the Lord as formless in order to feel secure that they will not be vanquished by the Lord.
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  59. Anillina Says:

    Iksvaku das,
    Sorry,I am too confused about your words,i really didnt understand your looooong praching.Could you simply answer my these question in one sentence.
    What is God?
    Who is Krishna?
    Why are these Russian here in Nepal,what is their msgg?
    What is your Business?

  60. Iksvaku das Says:

    God is origin of everything in existence.
    Krishna is His foremost out of unlimited number of names-means the allatractive One.
    The message is that our state original state of full happiness and ever increasing bliss is being servants of Krishna. the russians try to teach the nepali people how to live in full happiness.
    my bussiness is becouse I also have in my life the goal tobe servant of krishna, since I’m convinced that this is the only way to happiness, and tell everyone else who happend to forget this . so I was curious why shut up hates the russians. and what he thinks about Krishna.

  61. Anillina Says:

    No No.Krishna is only attracted among women and we boy simply ignore him before so many great names like Gautama The Buddha.Buddhas teaching are the real and is way of full happiness.Have you practised Vippassana Meditation, then you will know how blind is your happiness.Only BOKAs are followers of Krishna because they are hungry of women like Krishnaa was.

    And your statement is here proof:

    “When i will be fully wake up Ill come in Nepal arest you and make you sell Hare Krishna Books all day and all night.”

    Were you happy at this instant?You are carrying gross sensation at this moment and how could you say you practise Bhagwat Gita,You are making fun of yourself…True Religious People dont react upon others’ comment no matter how bad they are.

    Buddhas say,”If som1 scolds you then answer him just giving smile,dont react”

    And we dont hate Russians by the way,we hate false religious person.You better teach Krishna in your country.Or Shall we come there to sell our Buddha teaching?

    (BOKA means he-goat)

  62. Iksvaku das Says:

    there is no my country your country or this religion or that religion religion is one to love god . god s name is Krishna. Lord Buddha is Form of lord krishna with specific function.
    Just as those who enjoy women on the pretext of being krishna followers- people started to eat meat on the pretext that they are offering it in yagya to Lord Vishnu- that is false religion- just to save the poor animals -Lord Buddha came and all togather defied the authority of the Vedas.

    I understand and appreciate that you hate false religious persons. For that reason you must kindli consider that you also have some wrong moments in your understanding. 1 Krishna and thouse who misinterpred teaching of Krishna- have nothing in common. another words – you hate false religion people but you dont fail to fall their victim. Without considering their bad example you must seek for the genuin teaching of krishna – and I guarantee you that there is nothing false. you can find it from the russian devotees distributing the books of A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami or you can find it in internet-vedabase.net. or my spiritual master site-backtohome.com.
    I have nothing against you nepali people or Shut Up – our host.In fact I”m thankfull of you giving place for this disscussion. And I”m glad that you take active position – trying to find the reason in life.
    this is just my way to say things- making challenge.
    But otherwice my aim is only to give inf about krishna to whomever hapend to be interested.
    I’m actually thankfull to you about your inquisitiveness- becouse most of the population in the world is neglectin that main feature of human form- search for the Siurce of all existence.
    False religious people are simply victims of their oun stupidity. You must help them to stop bein false, but first you must start yoursels with proper education in the science of the Supreme person.
    Although you cannot hear Him- be sure that He hears you perfectly in every moment.
    If you dont trust me or the sources Icite as refference., then atleast try in the depths of your heart to pray to Lord Buddha orKrishna-They are the same person- Pray to Lord Buddha in the manner that : Dear Lord Buddha pleace help me to Find the True religious path, and the truth about You and Krishna, Help me be Your sencere servant eternaly.
    Lord Buddha will happyly then give you some intelligence in the heart and you will than gradually become to understand what is what in thw world .
    I visited WBengal last year and there I met some friends fromyour country .In general people allover the world are nice – but also they are grosly misguided in their understanding of life.
    So of course caste brahmanism, fals religiositu, misrepresentin of Krishna as sexmonger- and so many other forms of material confusion – are not the way that can lead the people to happyness. But the way of happiness exists as far as my experience is concerned, and further more it is established by authorities of spotless reputation.And shure enough this is the way to Krishna.
    You can make further advancement if you meditate on the Hare Krishna Mahamantra: Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare- This name of Krishna is Krishna Himsels and meditating on Him audibli pronouncing this mantra or singing it in the company of other devotees will bring you unlimited happyness.
    I have no specific purpouse preching in nepal, and but also I have no reason to not prech there- my goal is to tell everyone about Krishna.
    And this about Se4lling Books for krishna in nepal- of course this is very niceif they are the books of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami. The books are same as people – there false people and genuine devotees and Books that have title that they are about Krishna but they are fake. So one must beg Lord Buddha for intelligence how to find real devotees and associate with them and find rea Krishna Books and read them with pleasure. So one thing is to find real Books but not like them , the other thing is to not pay attentino to false books – so you must consider the matter very intelligently.
    I write in this blog becouse I see that Shut up is sencere seeker and cannot stand falsity.This qualities are good.But now both you and he must further you knowledge of Lord Buddha and Lord Krishna. Lord Buddha Will happily Give you intelligence to understand everything from within your heart if you pray sencerelyto Him to be His true follower.Since the mission of The Lord is always the same- To teach Love of God – He Has many Forms – But when he comes the mission is the same. Krishna is the origin of All -All life allNature and And All His other forms . So there is no difference in purpouse between Lord Budha and Lord Krishna – But since you are accustomed to pray to lord Buddha – Than pray to Him. If you Pray sencerely to become His true servant wthout any tinge of selfish interest I can guarantee you that both Lord Buddha and Lord Krishna will be very satisfied with you and you will spend your life from there on in perfect harmony and happiness. That is the simple formula of happiness.

  63. Iksvaku das Says:

    there is no need me coming to nepal to force you to read and sell The books about krishna- ance you realise how wonderfull are those books- you will not stop reading them- you will start to live in the pages of thouse books. And you will want to sell them 24/7.
    thats why I get angry seeing shut up moking thouse people that try to give you the most sublime happiness giving you the Books of Prabhupad.
    Its different things to hate falsiti, and to falsly acuse what is actually nice.
    Pleace kindli consider the difference between the two.and choose wisely.
    Thats all.
    I stop writing here if it so happens that you some day discover that what I say is true – you can write me to ikshvakudas@gmail.com

  64. Anillina Says:

    i have sent you email.Ikshvakudas

  65. dakkar Says:

    ive been around iskon for 14 years living outside of a temple and i can tell you some of the points you have are valid some are not.they do sell bumper stickers with sexual and drug inuendo at coincerts and they do misrepresent themselves as humanitarian workers but this is a small minority of devotees-if you can call them that-most devotees would be sickened by this.mainlly these devotees that travel the concerts are from alachua florida and most came from wheeling west virginia where this kind of coruption was the norm-just hit every car before they can and tell people who they are they really hate this but beware you could end up getting jumped

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